Episode 58: Insight Dialogue – an interpersonal path to freedom

In this episode I have the pleasure of connecting with Gregory Kramer Ph.D. and Lucy Leu from the Metta Foundation, as we explore the emerging practice of Insight Dialogue. This relationally oriented form of meditation is based on the early teachings of the Buddha, but brings the qualities of mindfulness and concentration (which are usually cultivated through silent individual meditation) more directly into our face to face experience and interaction with other people. Many of the core principles of Insight Dialogue are discussed throughout the interview, but they are also pointed to and expressed in this actual conversation, which gives the interview an interesting twist! As a listener you are therefore invited to practice with us as we explore how our interpersonal lives can be a source of suffering and a genuin path to insight and liberation. Feel free to share your comments after the interview and check out the links below for more information about these topics.

If you feel inspired or provoked by our conversation feel free to add your comments after the interview. You can also send in a written piece of work and get it published together with this episode. Further details can be found here.

Episode links:

Metta Foundation (non-profit organization)
Gregory Kramer (bio)
Insight Dialogue – The Interpersonal path to freedom (book)

James Alexander Arnfinsen (redaktør)
James Alexander Arnfinsen (34) er lærer og arbeider i Osloskolen. Han har bred erfaring innenfor dialogbasert prosessledelse, nærværstrening og konflikthåndtering. Ta kontakt med James på følgende adresse: james.arnfinsen @ gmail.com
James Alexander Arnfinsen (redaktør)
James Alexander Arnfinsen (34) is a teacher, his subjects being geography, religious studies and sports science. He is currently working as a teacher in Oslo, Norway. In his spare time he practices Aikido, a Japanese martial art.
  • http://www.facebook.com/kari.bjerke.771 Kari Bjerke

    Dear James,
    Thank you for making this interview with Gregory Kramer and Lucy Leu. I especially enjoyed the part where you didn’t know what would come next and how that became an authentic practice and example of Insight Dialogue. I really enjoyed the interview.- Warm greeting, Kari Bjerke, Denmark

    • James Arnfinsen

      Thanks Kari,
      I really enjoyed this interview and especially the moment(s) you are referring to. So exciting when open and spacious don´t-no-mind is present.

      Sender denne hilsen fra her jeg sitter i Latinerkvarteret i KBH. Det er deilig å være norsk i Danmark 😉

  • James Arnfinsen

    Here is some information I was sent by Kari Bjerke from Denmark, regarding an Insight Dialogue Retreat in October 2016. More info below:

    An Insight Dialogue Retreat: “To meet life with confidence and A 5 day Insight Dialogue retreat with Anne Michel from Switzerland.

    October 5th-10th 2016 – at retreat center Rangjung Yeshe Gomde

    Insight Dialogue – which has been created by Gregory Kramer (www.metta.org) – brings the mindfulness and tranquility of traditional silent meditation practice into our interaction with others. It offers a method for cultivating mindfulness and concentration moment by moment. Depending on conditions inside us and around us, our perceptions of others and ourselves can open the heart with wisdom or create and sustain habitual patterns of stress and reactivity. Insight Dialogue practice allows us to face the complexity of the relational dimension with mindfulness. When experience is directly received here and now, our inter-relational fears soften, our efforts to be seen or to escape the moment of contact, diminish. Trust and calm can settle in us, anchored in
    wisdom and compassion. The retreat will be held in silence except for structured periods of Insight Dialogue practice.

    There will be times of silent sitting, mindful movement, and dialogue in groups of 2 or more, with a precise direction of contemplation. The retreat is open to beginners and long time practitioners. If you have questions about the suitability of the retreat for you, please contact Kari or Louise.

    This retreat is offered on the basis of Dana.

    This means that your retreat fee covers meals, facilities rental, and part of the travel and lodging expense of the teachers. There is no fee built in to compensate the teachers. Why is insight Dialogue offered on this basis? Dana is a practice of freely giving and receiving. Participating in practices of generosity opens the heart to a larger context than the small world of me and mine. When money remains a source of mindful responsibility, it allows everyone to receive the practice of ID whatever his/her financial situation. At the end of the retreat, participants can freely support the teacher, as they are able. This practice emphasizes a sense of community locally (people having more giving for people having less), and also globally. The teacher isable to be with us now in Denmark because other communities of practice have contributed to their livelihood. Sharing money, time, and teachings is a mindful way to support what we value. It is a precious way of witnessing the reality of our interconnectedness.

    About Anne Michel:
    She is a Vipassana and Insight Dialogue teacher. Anne has been teaching since 2000 in Switzerland, where she has a regular sangha. She teaches throughout Europe in both French and English language. http://www.mudita.ch

    Practical information

    Location: Rangjung Yeshe Gomde, Smedehalden 3, 8420 Knebel (a little outside Ebeltoft) Denmark


    Kr. 4.575,00 for privat persons
    Kr. 4.575,00 plus 25% (Danish VAT) for companies which incl. food and lodging in dormitory

    Dates 2016:

    Wednesday October 5th at 17:00 hour – Monday October 10th at 13:00 hour

    The teachings will be in English.

    For further information’s and sign ups please contact:

    Louise Vaelds


    +45 5190 1296

    Kari Bjerke


    +45 4030 1442